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		By: EnriqueFrijole		</title>
		<link>https://wn.calicoeng.com/2019/05/21/protests-mount-against-two-south-tempe-projects/#comment-83191</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EnriqueFrijole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 23:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wn.calicoeng.com/2019/05/21/protests-mount-against-two-south-tempe-projects/#comment-73875&quot;&gt;Tom Sanford&lt;/a&gt;.

Mr Smith et al should pool their $ and buy the bank owned Tilted Kilt on Warner west of Kyrene and give their vision a go!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wn.calicoeng.com/2019/05/21/protests-mount-against-two-south-tempe-projects/#comment-73875">Tom Sanford</a>.</p>
<p>Mr Smith et al should pool their $ and buy the bank owned Tilted Kilt on Warner west of Kyrene and give their vision a go!</p>
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		By: EnriqueFrijole		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EnriqueFrijole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 23:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wn.calicoeng.com/2019/05/21/protests-mount-against-two-south-tempe-projects/#comment-73124&quot;&gt;HHK&lt;/a&gt;.

You are spot on my friend, this is yet another example of people with no business acumen dictating to business people and playing to the city council who merely pandering for votes to get reelected.They are breaking their own laws when they don&#039;t follow the zoning established by the city.If they get sued enough times they will be forced to respect the commercial zoning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wn.calicoeng.com/2019/05/21/protests-mount-against-two-south-tempe-projects/#comment-73124">HHK</a>.</p>
<p>You are spot on my friend, this is yet another example of people with no business acumen dictating to business people and playing to the city council who merely pandering for votes to get reelected.They are breaking their own laws when they don&#8217;t follow the zoning established by the city.If they get sued enough times they will be forced to respect the commercial zoning.</p>
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		By: LA		</title>
		<link>https://wn.calicoeng.com/2019/05/21/protests-mount-against-two-south-tempe-projects/#comment-75072</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2019 22:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comments like:
&quot;Really, an oil change depot and a fast-food franchise don’t fit in with the character of this area,” 
“Like the rest of the neighborhood, that building had a lot of character. That’s what we’re talking about.”

I don&#039;t know what is exactly Mr. Smith saying, but it sounds terribly Elitist 
What the hell is &quot;Character&quot;
They are replacing a dirty and poorly managed Gas Station with terrible service and full of Junk with a newer car service that will create new jobs. Do you also want to get rid of Discount Tire?
Please get a job, too much free time for nothing]]></description>
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&#8220;Really, an oil change depot and a fast-food franchise don’t fit in with the character of this area,”<br />
“Like the rest of the neighborhood, that building had a lot of character. That’s what we’re talking about.”</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what is exactly Mr. Smith saying, but it sounds terribly Elitist<br />
What the hell is &#8220;Character&#8221;<br />
They are replacing a dirty and poorly managed Gas Station with terrible service and full of Junk with a newer car service that will create new jobs. Do you also want to get rid of Discount Tire?<br />
Please get a job, too much free time for nothing</p>
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		By: Tom Sanford		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Sanford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2019 23:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bravo for Jennifer Adams for standing up for private property rights : “The Raising Cane’s developer bought that land, made a proposal in keeping with the existing commercial zoning, and they can develop it as they see fit.” If Smith and the other multi acre property homeowners want their version of “cool and awesome” development for that corner, fantastic, simply pool your funds, purchase the property and get started.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo for Jennifer Adams for standing up for private property rights : “The Raising Cane’s developer bought that land, made a proposal in keeping with the existing commercial zoning, and they can develop it as they see fit.” If Smith and the other multi acre property homeowners want their version of “cool and awesome” development for that corner, fantastic, simply pool your funds, purchase the property and get started.</p>
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		By: HHK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HHK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2019 18:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s talk about chains and auto businesses. What about Zipps, a chain restaurant  that spreads their burger smell all over Estate La Colina each day, plus their loud music every night? Why was that a good decision to move into a quiet South Tempe neighborhood? I&#039;d prefer they go away and move back into the location they vacated two years ago. Subway is right next to them. Haven&#039;t heard complaints about them. High churn fitness center and a GNC chain aren&#039;t raising concerns.  Dunkin Donuts, which I enjoy, and the bane of every street corner in every city, Starbucks, which I do not at all enjoy are also not raising concerns with the big, angry group of thousands. Starbucks makes horrendous, over priced mass produced coffee but the drive through there is clogged every day. And all of that traffic funnels onto Warner. Making coffee at home would eliminate all of that traffic in every US city. In the last ten or fifteen years we all got too lazy to push the on button on our coffee makers. But many of you pay $4 for a burnt cup of coffee. 

There was a Triple A full service auto body shop with propane tanks, free air and a gas station there for the whole 17 years I&#039;ve lived here. No one has mentioned that as a comparison or complained but I sure wish they were still there. I could go to Bashas, a local chain, Walgreens, a mammoth chain,  and the gas station in two stops. An oil change place isn&#039;t as good but it will shut down at 7 or 8 every day and be closed on Sundays.  Talk about noise, there&#039;s a Discount Tire which doesn&#039;t really fit the neighborhood either, but I can walk or bike home while waiting for my car. I appreciate their business. Verizon has a store where I don&#039;t think they belong but it&#039;s better than the blighted 7-11 that operated in that building for years. There&#039;s a successful Garcias chain restaurant in a spot where multiple restaurants failed. I like their happy hour and see many families enjoying parties and events in their spacious patio. This spring H&#038;R block had an office where I had my taxes prepared. High turn business that spewed traffic onto Warner and McClintock. I found it to be very convenient and hope they come back next year.

I&#039;m glad that two reputable businesses, maybe not ones I would personally hand pick, are moving in. It would have been almost financially impossible to retrofit an aged bank building into a new business. Better a business than a vacant, decaying building. There was no way to recycle the auto shop and gas station.  They were too small in light of the gigantic QT-size stations necessary to turn a profit. There is not enough room or long term parking spots available to accommodate a second sit down restaurant where Raising Canes is going. People linger too long and everyone would have parked in the convenient Bashas coveted spaces which could potentially drive them out of business. They made a huge investment a few years back when they did an extensive remodel. I would hate to lose them to a wine bar.  I am thinking that Raising Canes will drive more business to the hair salon, Bashas and Starbucks. Chicken fingers for the kids and a latte for mom. 

My preference would be a gas station and ice cream shop but I don&#039;t run the City who make appropriate zoning decisions or have the cash funds to run a business of my own. That takes millions in investment money. If you are a complainer and have that type of money why have you not submitted a bid for a one of a kind, stand-alone brick and mortar, low profit margin business? These two companies have the dollars and followed the requirements, fair and square and have been approved to operate from what I understand.  The traffic levels, noise and chain&quot;fit&quot; won&#039;t be any different than it is right now. I won&#039;t be joining the complaining masses. Reason being is that three months into their grand openings no one will notice these businesses weren&#039;t there the whole time. And if they close and something new comes in, someone will complain about the loss to the neighborhood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s talk about chains and auto businesses. What about Zipps, a chain restaurant  that spreads their burger smell all over Estate La Colina each day, plus their loud music every night? Why was that a good decision to move into a quiet South Tempe neighborhood? I&#8217;d prefer they go away and move back into the location they vacated two years ago. Subway is right next to them. Haven&#8217;t heard complaints about them. High churn fitness center and a GNC chain aren&#8217;t raising concerns.  Dunkin Donuts, which I enjoy, and the bane of every street corner in every city, Starbucks, which I do not at all enjoy are also not raising concerns with the big, angry group of thousands. Starbucks makes horrendous, over priced mass produced coffee but the drive through there is clogged every day. And all of that traffic funnels onto Warner. Making coffee at home would eliminate all of that traffic in every US city. In the last ten or fifteen years we all got too lazy to push the on button on our coffee makers. But many of you pay $4 for a burnt cup of coffee. </p>
<p>There was a Triple A full service auto body shop with propane tanks, free air and a gas station there for the whole 17 years I&#8217;ve lived here. No one has mentioned that as a comparison or complained but I sure wish they were still there. I could go to Bashas, a local chain, Walgreens, a mammoth chain,  and the gas station in two stops. An oil change place isn&#8217;t as good but it will shut down at 7 or 8 every day and be closed on Sundays.  Talk about noise, there&#8217;s a Discount Tire which doesn&#8217;t really fit the neighborhood either, but I can walk or bike home while waiting for my car. I appreciate their business. Verizon has a store where I don&#8217;t think they belong but it&#8217;s better than the blighted 7-11 that operated in that building for years. There&#8217;s a successful Garcias chain restaurant in a spot where multiple restaurants failed. I like their happy hour and see many families enjoying parties and events in their spacious patio. This spring H&amp;R block had an office where I had my taxes prepared. High turn business that spewed traffic onto Warner and McClintock. I found it to be very convenient and hope they come back next year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that two reputable businesses, maybe not ones I would personally hand pick, are moving in. It would have been almost financially impossible to retrofit an aged bank building into a new business. Better a business than a vacant, decaying building. There was no way to recycle the auto shop and gas station.  They were too small in light of the gigantic QT-size stations necessary to turn a profit. There is not enough room or long term parking spots available to accommodate a second sit down restaurant where Raising Canes is going. People linger too long and everyone would have parked in the convenient Bashas coveted spaces which could potentially drive them out of business. They made a huge investment a few years back when they did an extensive remodel. I would hate to lose them to a wine bar.  I am thinking that Raising Canes will drive more business to the hair salon, Bashas and Starbucks. Chicken fingers for the kids and a latte for mom. </p>
<p>My preference would be a gas station and ice cream shop but I don&#8217;t run the City who make appropriate zoning decisions or have the cash funds to run a business of my own. That takes millions in investment money. If you are a complainer and have that type of money why have you not submitted a bid for a one of a kind, stand-alone brick and mortar, low profit margin business? These two companies have the dollars and followed the requirements, fair and square and have been approved to operate from what I understand.  The traffic levels, noise and chain&#8221;fit&#8221; won&#8217;t be any different than it is right now. I won&#8217;t be joining the complaining masses. Reason being is that three months into their grand openings no one will notice these businesses weren&#8217;t there the whole time. And if they close and something new comes in, someone will complain about the loss to the neighborhood.</p>
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		By: Rebekah Morris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebekah Morris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2019 13:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We need a quick service restaurant with a drive through in this area other than McDonald&#039;s, Jack in the Box, and Burger King. A lot of us in the area also have kids with tons of after school activities. Give me a Raising Canes or Chick Fil A any day; it&#039;s good food, the staff is friendly and polite, and keeps my tax dollars in Tempe instead of nearby cities. Residents need a variety of options, a local super trendy spot like Postinos doesn&#039;t work for everyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a quick service restaurant with a drive through in this area other than McDonald&#8217;s, Jack in the Box, and Burger King. A lot of us in the area also have kids with tons of after school activities. Give me a Raising Canes or Chick Fil A any day; it&#8217;s good food, the staff is friendly and polite, and keeps my tax dollars in Tempe instead of nearby cities. Residents need a variety of options, a local super trendy spot like Postinos doesn&#8217;t work for everyone.</p>
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		By: Eugene		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eugene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2019 17:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Based on my observations in other areas, it seems like restaurants like Postinos result in greater traffic and activity than oil change centers so I don&#039;t believe this makes a strong argument but I could be wrong. Also, I bicycle a lot and I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve ever noticed any troubling level of odor from oil change businesses. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I think it&#039;s sad when an architecturally interesting structure is razed for another chain business that can be found a few miles away. But unless local entrepreneurs are willing to develop unique businesses in the area and bring these to the community and council, you can&#039;t stave off other development.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on my observations in other areas, it seems like restaurants like Postinos result in greater traffic and activity than oil change centers so I don&#8217;t believe this makes a strong argument but I could be wrong. Also, I bicycle a lot and I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve ever noticed any troubling level of odor from oil change businesses. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I think it&#8217;s sad when an architecturally interesting structure is razed for another chain business that can be found a few miles away. But unless local entrepreneurs are willing to develop unique businesses in the area and bring these to the community and council, you can&#8217;t stave off other development.</p>
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		By: Beverley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beverley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2019 15:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We can do without the valvoline.   Smells.  Heavy traffic.  We will trade with rural  and Warner and take the Postinos.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can do without the valvoline.   Smells.  Heavy traffic.  We will trade with rural  and Warner and take the Postinos.</p>
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		By: Erik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2019 02:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That raising Cane&#039;s is going to totally ruin the cool and interesting vibe of that bank of America and Dunkin doughnuts on that Southeast corner.  What a joke.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That raising Cane&#8217;s is going to totally ruin the cool and interesting vibe of that bank of America and Dunkin doughnuts on that Southeast corner.  What a joke.</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2019 01:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pave paradise, put up an out-of-state chain restaurant. Thank God for Native Americans. At least we can drive past the Res. and see what Arizona once looked like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pave paradise, put up an out-of-state chain restaurant. Thank God for Native Americans. At least we can drive past the Res. and see what Arizona once looked like.</p>
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